tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3979841962529989545.post1721477356068268460..comments2023-08-29T04:46:17.141-07:00Comments on Fantasia's World: On Marriage and SlaveryFantasiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18170496820218921972noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3979841962529989545.post-18267172344193156682007-06-02T00:24:00.000-07:002007-06-02T00:24:00.000-07:00eyad ... I have been triggered by two things u sai...eyad ... I have been triggered by two things u said .... <BR/><BR/>First is the secret balance :) .. a woman's secret balance is to be a mother and a mistress !!!!!! where is the partner in that… a woman to serve and bare children, and a hole to fill who can manipulate her man emotionally and physically … where is the respect in that … and where is the woman's mind in that?! A lousy housewife but can manipulate him well … where is the marriage as it should be in that… as women has to play tricks to be good and worthy <BR/><BR/>Second … the TRI 7 … <BR/>I agree with fantasia's definition of love, compassion and protection … this shows your sense of superiority that women need protection yet they were protecting loving and compassionating men from the very first moment of their creation …<BR/>As a mother, a sister, a wife, a daughter and a mistress…<BR/>Think and u will find that men has been taking and women were giving all the above. and even if a man think he is doing so … u will find that his woman is giving much more, or at least equal to what he is giving .. Where is the good in that!!Egyptiana Trapped Soulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18047984157989256186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3979841962529989545.post-25510758560059382432007-05-31T04:34:00.000-07:002007-05-31T04:34:00.000-07:00egypt rose:I too get provoked by the idea that men...egypt rose:<BR/>I too get provoked by the idea that men provide protection for women! We don't need bodyguards or the like. We live in apartments with locks now. There is police that can punish those who harm you. We don't need man's physical strength which is only useful in the jungle.<BR/>As for your thought about a woman refering to herself always by stating that she is a woman. I perfectly understood your point. I believe those classic resources are a very good start to build an awareness about gender issues and the history of feminist thought. I however belong to the more recent schools. But you are right, we should read about the origins of the problem and how the question of gender was tackled through history.Fantasiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08461909070546227094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3979841962529989545.post-65625936609501536422007-05-31T00:40:00.000-07:002007-05-31T00:40:00.000-07:00استفزتني كلمة "حماية" حماية من ايه .. التهديد الوح...استفزتني كلمة "حماية" حماية من ايه .. التهديد الوحيد القادم هو من الرجل .. يعني يهددها بالحماية .. ولا يحميها من تهديده ..ولا ايه انا مش مستوعبة الموضوع .. التفكير بان المرأة ضعيفة وفي حاجة الى حماية تفكير مضى عليه 2322 سنة تماماً هي عمر نظرية ارسطو في الحتمية البيولوجية للمرأة .. يعني ان المرأة وجدت كما وجدت الارض الزراعية .. كائن موجود للولادة .. وعلى الطرف القوى و الانسان الكامل (الرجل) ان يهتم بها و يزرعها ويوفر لها الحماية<BR/><BR/>fantasia.. <BR/>اذا كنتي فخورة بكونك امرأة .. انا أكثر نساء العالم افتخار بك و بنفسي و طبعاً لا عيب في التعريف .. بس الموضوع انني كنت احاول ان اكتب عن احوال المرأة المصرية وعن مدي تخلف الافكار الحيطة بها و ان اقتبس اراء ارسطو و سيمون وبعض المهتمين بالمرأةو ان اذكر التواريخ حتى نتمكن من معرفة الى اى مدي نحن متخلفين عن العالم .. وذكرت سيمون كلمة انها حين تعرف نفسها تقول "انا امرأة" في حين لا يذكر الذكر ذلك في تعريفهEgypt Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14088808009271685089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3979841962529989545.post-90347380496974415622007-05-30T16:52:00.000-07:002007-05-30T16:52:00.000-07:00eyad:Thanks for introducing the tri-7 theory, alth...eyad:<BR/>Thanks for introducing the tri-7 theory, although I believe men have their own difinition of those words you mentioned: love for them means ownership, compassion means making love, and protection means money.Fantasiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08461909070546227094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3979841962529989545.post-2823932933116743322007-05-30T16:49:00.000-07:002007-05-30T16:49:00.000-07:00Dear agenda,Your words encouraged me to tackle the...Dear agenda,<BR/>Your words encouraged me to tackle the subject of divorce in a future post. Divorced women fall under huge pressure, they pay the price of their freedom from marriage by getting imprisoned in society. They are the evil witches which everybody fears and avoids. Women should start changing minds about divorce, especially that the number of divorced women is rapidly increasing.Fantasiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08461909070546227094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3979841962529989545.post-86179378191797911912007-05-30T16:46:00.000-07:002007-05-30T16:46:00.000-07:00egypt rose:I read The Second Sex long time ago. It...egypt rose:<BR/>I read The Second Sex long time ago. It is a very good book, but a very old one too. I am more into contemporary feminist theory, that is post-modern even. I should say I am a girl to know where I stand. I won't decieve myself into thinking I'm a man's equal when in reality I'm much beneath him. I must say I am a girl to feel its pride and avoid negative feelings. I must define my sex cause it is part of my identity.<BR/>Men take things further than simply saying "I'm a man," they feel they are under continuous pressure to prove their masculinity. They keep screaming it into your face all the time with their arrogant attitude.Fantasiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08461909070546227094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3979841962529989545.post-9135632937757190072007-05-30T14:18:00.001-07:002007-05-30T14:18:00.001-07:00Dear Fantasia,Thanks for your reply, I meant, if t...Dear Fantasia,<BR/>Thanks for your reply, I meant, if the woman can be a mistress and mother the man shall be different. If the man can give her what I cal Tri-7 (in arabic) حب ، حنان ، حماية the woman will be very different. This is the balanceDr. Eyad Harfoushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00181469789667320808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3979841962529989545.post-18907012815926093992007-05-30T14:18:00.000-07:002007-05-30T14:18:00.000-07:00Dear Fantasia,Thanks for your reply, I meant, if t...Dear Fantasia,<BR/>Thanks for your reply, I meant, if the woman can be a mistress and mother the man shall be different. If the man can give her what I cal Tri-7 (in arabic) حب ، حنان ، حماية the woman will be very different. This is the balanceDr. Eyad Harfoushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00181469789667320808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3979841962529989545.post-69395365296219759392007-05-30T07:55:00.000-07:002007-05-30T07:55:00.000-07:00Dear Fantasiai totally support u in writing a post...Dear Fantasia<BR/>i totally support u in writing a post about divorce<BR/>it isa very important issue<BR/>i wonder sometimes how can a man agree to stay with a womanwho dispises him,people always say he does this for the kids<BR/>in my opinion i think it is more healthy for childern to stay on good terms with both parents while the r divorced rather than seeing them fighting all the time<BR/>society always look at the woman who asks for divorce as if she committed a serious crime<BR/>they dont give excuses<BR/>woman r alway wrong <BR/>they dont say that about the husbands<BR/>women should always suffer in silence<BR/>they should bear everything always <BR/>not utter any wordAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3979841962529989545.post-59914421855040002022007-05-30T06:10:00.000-07:002007-05-30T06:10:00.000-07:00Hi Lady, did you ever have the chance to read "The...Hi Lady, <BR/>did you ever have the chance to read "The Second Sex" of Simone de Beauvoir, if no please do, if you you will find all the answers, what is funny in this book it says exactly what you did, "I'm girl" a man never begins by presenting himself as an individual of a certain sex!!!!!<BR/><BR/>women has always been man's dependant , if not his slave; woman is the other.<BR/><BR/>Keep writingEgypt Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14088808009271685089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3979841962529989545.post-38409676231828621572007-05-30T04:52:00.000-07:002007-05-30T04:52:00.000-07:00eyad:I appreciate your objectivity in responding t...eyad:<BR/>I appreciate your objectivity in responding to my posts. But allow me to disagree here. The housewife you are talking about does not possess a secret balance or anything, her happiness is the happiness of the ignorant. You see this all the time around you. Like the majority of Egyptians who know nothing about politics or how other countries in the world have made an invention called democracy. They live in such peace of mind. You can't say they have got the secret formula of happiness.Fantasiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08461909070546227094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3979841962529989545.post-20301263554570336512007-05-30T04:45:00.000-07:002007-05-30T04:45:00.000-07:00Dear agenda,I am always happy to read your respons...Dear agenda,<BR/>I am always happy to read your response to a post. It is true that the pressure women are subjected to in our society is huge. They face pressure to get married and then the ugly pressure of divorce. But I believe it is women who should start to change this image about divorce. I think I will write a post about that soon. It is not fair to get in and get stuck, and when you finally get the courage to get out you are treated like shit, as if you committed a crime,<BR/>Girls who dream of prince charming are misleaded by all the stories of "and they lived happily ever after". They can't see the other side. Society has made a wedding day so appealing, the big celebration, the wedding dress, guests congratualting, the prestige of being married.. They are dazzled by all those childish things. They can't see that all this lasts for one day, they they will face a lifetime of suffering.Fantasiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08461909070546227094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3979841962529989545.post-56647061051956313702007-05-30T04:36:00.000-07:002007-05-30T04:36:00.000-07:00alien:Believe me I kept trying to figure out what ...alien:<BR/>Believe me I kept trying to figure out what you meant by your final "Have fun" yet I failed. <BR/>And you are saying the solution is easy "don't sign this contract"? I wish never to see another girl signing it, but would society respect their decision? It will keep them under pressure all the time. That's why the majority of girls get married, by the way.Fantasiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08461909070546227094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3979841962529989545.post-89175117969938829612007-05-29T13:54:00.000-07:002007-05-29T13:54:00.000-07:00Dear Fantasia,Great work, and as well I agree to t...Dear Fantasia,<BR/><BR/>Great work, and as well I agree to the bad parts of men behavior you spotted. Yet, you will find a man married to a lousy woman as housewife. Yet, he is happy, and she is as well, did not you think why? because she have got the secret balance that makes man careless about his stomach and clothes, and makes him stop criticizing.Dr. Eyad Harfoushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00181469789667320808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3979841962529989545.post-80875737253936777952007-05-29T09:39:00.000-07:002007-05-29T09:39:00.000-07:00Fantasiaanother strong statement and post by you m...Fantasia<BR/>another strong statement and post by you my dear<BR/>unfortunately no matter what we r goin to say..u will still be seeing lots of girls when they r being asked about their dream...they will answer to wear the white dress and meet my prince of charming<BR/>girls dont know what they will be goin through and sometimes even if they did ...traditions and families wont allow them to second guess the marriage<BR/>it will be much better to think of marriage as some form of an equal thing between the man and his wife but this unfortunately doesnt happen with egyptian guys<BR/>like u said they take the women as their wives by name only when infact they r servants for free...<BR/>maybe when the girl realizes the ugly truth ..this leads to divorce but also after carrying the ugly name of a divorcee and god people wont leave her also alone<BR/>people dont leave any woman alone whether she is single or married or divorced <BR/>always harrassing them ,always gossiping about them:(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3979841962529989545.post-46608894302739155362007-05-29T06:12:00.000-07:002007-05-29T06:12:00.000-07:00wemen agree on this, i do not know why but they do...wemen agree on this, i do not know why but they do<BR/>it is simple, do not sign this kind of contract<BR/><BR/>i believe that a good couple can make a successful marriage away from all this<BR/><BR/>have funThe Alienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15673578952275105242noreply@blogger.com